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	<title>Comments on: Why not using DC Power in the Data Center is stupid</title>
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		<title>By: Why not using DC Power in the Data Center is stupid &#171; Enterprise Strategy Group</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why not using DC Power in the Data Center is stupid &#171; Enterprise Strategy Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read the entire blog entry here &gt;&gt; All views and opinions expressed in ESG blog posts are intended to be those of the post&#039;s author and do not necessarily reflect the views of Enterprise Strategy Group, Inc., or its clients. ESG bloggers do not and will not engage in any form of paid-for blogging. Click to see our complete Disclosure Policy. For important information about using this content, please review our Terms &amp; Conditions    Tags: ac power, cabinet, data center, dc power, electrical systems, electricity, energy savings, isp, maintenance, pdu, raised floor, reliability, SAN, servers, Storage [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Read the entire blog entry here &gt;&gt; All views and opinions expressed in ESG blog posts are intended to be those of the post&#39;s author and do not necessarily reflect the views of Enterprise Strategy Group, Inc., or its clients. ESG bloggers do not and will not engage in any form of paid-for blogging. Click to see our complete Disclosure Policy. For important information about using this content, please review our Terms &amp; Conditions    Tags: ac power, cabinet, data center, dc power, electrical systems, electricity, energy savings, isp, maintenance, pdu, raised floor, reliability, SAN, servers, Storage [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Gerhart</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/03/17/why-not-using-dc-power-in-the-data-center-is-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-1464</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,&lt;br&gt;Glad to do it.  Please email me your contact information, and we can set something up.&lt;br&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;David Gerhart&lt;br&gt;VP Business Development &lt;br&gt;Energy Systems&lt;br&gt;Emerson Network Power&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:david.gerhart@emerson.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;david.gerhart@emerson.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />Glad to do it.  Please email me your contact information, and we can set something up.<br />Regards,<br />David Gerhart<br />VP Business Development <br />Energy Systems<br />Emerson Network Power<br /><a href="mailto:david.gerhart@emerson.com" rel="nofollow">david.gerhart@emerson.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: thehotaisle</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/03/17/why-not-using-dc-power-in-the-data-center-is-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-1451</link>
		<dc:creator>thehotaisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I liked about the Validus solution is that it delivers 48V to the rack providing low voltage, safe working conditions for operators and the higher voltage stuff stays in a cabinet restricted to the DC engineers. The significant thing is that it works today, now with kit that we can all buy today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The industry has been talking high voltage DC forever but where are the standards? When do we see the equipment? It ain&#039;t happening soon as far as I can see and we have businesses to run and costs to cut as well as a planet to save.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IT seems to me that this is a really hot area and I would like to talk more - perhaps schedule an interview for The Hot Aisle of you are up for it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Steve (currently on the East Coast USA)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>What I liked about the Validus solution is that it delivers 48V to the rack providing low voltage, safe working conditions for operators and the higher voltage stuff stays in a cabinet restricted to the DC engineers. The significant thing is that it works today, now with kit that we can all buy today.</p>
<p>The industry has been talking high voltage DC forever but where are the standards? When do we see the equipment? It ain&#39;t happening soon as far as I can see and we have businesses to run and costs to cut as well as a planet to save.</p>
<p>IT seems to me that this is a really hot area and I would like to talk more &#8211; perhaps schedule an interview for The Hot Aisle of you are up for it?</p>
<p>Steve (currently on the East Coast USA)</p>
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		<title>By: David Gerhart</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/03/17/why-not-using-dc-power-in-the-data-center-is-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-1450</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with you that multiple power conversion steps are ”completely and utterly nuts,” I think the issue is more complex than presented here. Effectively changing the distribution architecture of an entire industry requires buy-in from all the stakeholders in the value chain (or in this case voltage chain). Providing a distribution method of higher voltage DC (i.e., up to 600V) requires IT equipment willing and ready to receive it. This requires buy-in from IT equipment providers and their power supply vendor base. Until we see mass movement in this area, the economies of production scale will not be realized by the power supply vendors. The IT equipment providers have no incentive to change in this regard, as to them, it only looks like a first-cost increase.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We take issue with the Validus 575V choice, as this is optimal only from a distribution point of view, not a power conversion and use point of view. Other voltage levels are available, such as 380V, that are much closer to widespread industry acceptance in the Server Power Supply. Most importantly, unless the voltage level is kept as an open standard (i.e., limited IP protection), widespread adoption will not happen. Additionally, 48V distributed systems, on the 100-200kW range, are unique solutions that can provide ‘power-to-the-row.’ These are available today, IT equipment of all varieties exist, and the technology has been proven, as you correctly point out, in the Telecom industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with you that multiple power conversion steps are ”completely and utterly nuts,” I think the issue is more complex than presented here. Effectively changing the distribution architecture of an entire industry requires buy-in from all the stakeholders in the value chain (or in this case voltage chain). Providing a distribution method of higher voltage DC (i.e., up to 600V) requires IT equipment willing and ready to receive it. This requires buy-in from IT equipment providers and their power supply vendor base. Until we see mass movement in this area, the economies of production scale will not be realized by the power supply vendors. The IT equipment providers have no incentive to change in this regard, as to them, it only looks like a first-cost increase.</p>
<p>We take issue with the Validus 575V choice, as this is optimal only from a distribution point of view, not a power conversion and use point of view. Other voltage levels are available, such as 380V, that are much closer to widespread industry acceptance in the Server Power Supply. Most importantly, unless the voltage level is kept as an open standard (i.e., limited IP protection), widespread adoption will not happen. Additionally, 48V distributed systems, on the 100-200kW range, are unique solutions that can provide ‘power-to-the-row.’ These are available today, IT equipment of all varieties exist, and the technology has been proven, as you correctly point out, in the Telecom industry.</p>
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		<title>By: datacenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>datacenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Why Not Using DC Power is Stupid: The Hot Aisle&#039;s Steve O&#039;Donnell jumps into the AC vs. DC debate, with both feet. http://bit.ly/QySZ5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Why Not Using DC Power is Stupid: The Hot Aisle&#8217;s Steve O&#8217;Donnell jumps into the AC vs. DC debate, with both feet. <a href="http://bit.ly/QySZ5" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/QySZ5</a></span></span></span></p>
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