Comments on: Why legacy thinking costs performance, reliability and cash http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/06/02/why-legacy-thinking-costs-performance-reliability-and-cash/ Fresh Thinking on IT Operations Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Why Legacy Thinking Costs Performance, Reliability, and Cash « Enterprise Strategy Group http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/06/02/why-legacy-thinking-costs-performance-reliability-and-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-7183 Why Legacy Thinking Costs Performance, Reliability, and Cash « Enterprise Strategy Group Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:28:35 +0000 http://www.thehotaisle.com/?p=1397#comment-7183 [...] Read the entire blog entry here >> All views and opinions expressed in ESG blog posts are intended to be those of the post's author and do not necessarily reflect the views of Enterprise Strategy Group, Inc., or its clients. ESG bloggers do not and will not engage in any form of paid-for blogging. Click to see our complete Disclosure Policy. For important information about using this content, please review our Terms & Conditions Tags: ac power, airflow, articles, data center, feature, IT Operations, maintenance, opinion, problems, raised floor, SAN, Servers [...] [...] Read the entire blog entry here >> All views and opinions expressed in ESG blog posts are intended to be those of the post's author and do not necessarily reflect the views of Enterprise Strategy Group, Inc., or its clients. ESG bloggers do not and will not engage in any form of paid-for blogging. Click to see our complete Disclosure Policy. For important information about using this content, please review our Terms & Conditions Tags: ac power, airflow, articles, data center, feature, IT Operations, maintenance, opinion, problems, raised floor, SAN, Servers [...]

]]> By: Sjoerd van Groning http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/06/02/why-legacy-thinking-costs-performance-reliability-and-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1547 Sjoerd van Groning Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:09:32 +0000 http://www.thehotaisle.com/?p=1397#comment-1547 Don't get me started on the airflow in alot of switching and routing equipment. With servers at least we work with a cold and warm isle which is kinda efficient,pulling cold air in at the front and blowing it out on the back. Who did ever come up with a side to side airflow. And why are some switche left-right and some right-left. Aargh. Do the designers have any idea that their equipment is 19" because it will be put in a cabinet? Don't get me started on the airflow in alot of switching and routing equipment. With servers at least we work with a cold and warm isle which is kinda efficient,pulling cold air in at the front and blowing it out on the back. Who did ever come up with a side to side airflow. And why are some switche left-right and some right-left. Aargh. Do the designers have any idea that their equipment is 19″ because it will be put in a cabinet?

]]> By: noshow http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/06/02/why-legacy-thinking-costs-performance-reliability-and-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1546 noshow Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:27:22 +0000 http://www.thehotaisle.com/?p=1397#comment-1546 Steve,<br><br>I think basically data centre design fails because each discipline does not know what the other disciplines are doing and each is going his merry way regardless. For instance we are seeing every greater equipment densities which need an ever greater amount of cooling, why ? I think the economises have changed so that the cost of a data centre in £ per m² is not the important cost it’s the running costs so if you buy a big shed type building and space the kit out so its easier and more economical to cool. Why try to put more and more kit into small space ? It not going to make things more efficient .<br><br>As I read the EU code of conduct on data centre efficiency, in pacticular the bit that says all new IT to be ETSI compliant by 2012. I wonder if anyone who is in a position to effect change are looking to the future and if so why are people still building data centre dinosaurs !<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Steve C Steve,

I think basically data centre design fails because each discipline does not know what the other disciplines are doing and each is going his merry way regardless. For instance we are seeing every greater equipment densities which need an ever greater amount of cooling, why ? I think the economises have changed so that the cost of a data centre in £ per m² is not the important cost it’s the running costs so if you buy a big shed type building and space the kit out so its easier and more economical to cool. Why try to put more and more kit into small space ? It not going to make things more efficient .

As I read the EU code of conduct on data centre efficiency, in pacticular the bit that says all new IT to be ETSI compliant by 2012. I wonder if anyone who is in a position to effect change are looking to the future and if so why are people still building data centre dinosaurs !

Cheers

Steve C

]]> By: Steve Crawford http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/06/02/why-legacy-thinking-costs-performance-reliability-and-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-8988 Steve Crawford Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:17:00 +0000 http://www.thehotaisle.com/?p=1397#comment-8988 Steve, I think basically data centre design fails because each discipline does not know what the other disciplines are doing and each is going his merry way regardless. For instance we are seeing every greater equipment densities which need an ever greater amount of cooling, why ? I think the economises have changed so that the cost of a data centre in £ per m² is not the important cost it’s the running costs so if you buy a big shed type building and space the kit out so its easier and more economical to cool. Why try to put more and more kit into small space ? It not going to make things more efficient . As I read the EU code of conduct on data centre efficiency, in pacticular the bit that says all new IT to be ETSI compliant by 2012. I wonder if anyone who is in a position to effect change are looking to the future and if so why are people still building data centre dinosaurs ! Cheers Steve C Steve,

I think basically data centre design fails because each discipline does not know what the other disciplines are doing and each is going his merry way regardless. For instance we are seeing every greater equipment densities which need an ever greater amount of cooling, why ? I think the economises have changed so that the cost of a data centre in £ per m² is not the important cost it’s the running costs so if you buy a big shed type building and space the kit out so its easier and more economical to cool. Why try to put more and more kit into small space ? It not going to make things more efficient .

As I read the EU code of conduct on data centre efficiency, in pacticular the bit that says all new IT to be ETSI compliant by 2012. I wonder if anyone who is in a position to effect change are looking to the future and if so why are people still building data centre dinosaurs !

Cheers

Steve C

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