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		<title>By: ICT nieuws t/m week 48 - 2009 - Bob&#39;s Nieuws</title>
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		<dc:creator>ICT nieuws t/m week 48 - 2009 - Bob&#39;s Nieuws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pradeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pradeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Quite an interesting option.Any white papers around.Would like to delve in more in to the subject

Could be good option as we move on towards greening the mother earth

Rgds,

Pradeep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Quite an interesting option.Any white papers around.Would like to delve in more in to the subject</p>
<p>Could be good option as we move on towards greening the mother earth</p>
<p>Rgds,</p>
<p>Pradeep</p>
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		<title>By: Funny and relevant Data Centre Cartoon &#124; The Hot Aisle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funny and relevant Data Centre Cartoon &#124; The Hot Aisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4843</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duron

Thanks for the comment. As the Iceotope boxes are made from commodity parts they are a similar price to other blade systems. When looked at end to end, the capital costs will be lower. There is no need for CRAC units or refrigeration plant at all.

In an enterprise environment folks don&#039;t do memory upgrades. Replacement cycles are 18 - 36 months as more advanced and efficient hardware is released. The key thing about the Iceotope solution is that blades can be swapped without changing the rack out.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duron</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. As the Iceotope boxes are made from commodity parts they are a similar price to other blade systems. When looked at end to end, the capital costs will be lower. There is no need for CRAC units or refrigeration plant at all.</p>
<p>In an enterprise environment folks don&#8217;t do memory upgrades. Replacement cycles are 18 &#8211; 36 months as more advanced and efficient hardware is released. The key thing about the Iceotope solution is that blades can be swapped without changing the rack out.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Duron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the additional cost of the server and infrastructure ever weight up against the cost of cooling? 
And I don&#039;t want te be the one swapping memory modules in those machines. :)
It looks like a perfect for closed-system supercomputers or one-time-no-upgrade installations where if a node fails, the whole node can be replaced. A few weeks ago I read about a new UK supercomputer to calculate climate change, but it consumed a bazillion watts to operate. Perfect match for this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the additional cost of the server and infrastructure ever weight up against the cost of cooling?<br />
And I don&#8217;t want te be the one swapping memory modules in those machines. <img src='http://www.thehotaisle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It looks like a perfect for closed-system supercomputers or one-time-no-upgrade installations where if a node fails, the whole node can be replaced. A few weeks ago I read about a new UK supercomputer to calculate climate change, but it consumed a bazillion watts to operate. Perfect match for this!</p>
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		<title>By: georges</title>
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		<dc:creator>georges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the next thing that should be done is heat the building with that hot liquid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the next thing that should be done is heat the building with that hot liquid!</p>
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		<title>By: bc</title>
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		<dc:creator>bc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so this , innovative liquid cooling solution, is the sign that cloud computing is becoming popular?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so this , innovative liquid cooling solution, is the sign that cloud computing is becoming popular?</p>
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		<title>By: kws</title>
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		<dc:creator>kws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Component accessability is not an issue. No one EVER upgrades a server in an Enterprise Data Centre. No one ever attempts a fix in situ, not ever.&quot;

I&#039;ll tell that to a few sysadmins that I know.  They will get a chuckle out of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Component accessability is not an issue. No one EVER upgrades a server in an Enterprise Data Centre. No one ever attempts a fix in situ, not ever.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell that to a few sysadmins that I know.  They will get a chuckle out of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ted,

You are obviously an operations guy, practical and to the point. Simple answer is yes, every critical component is backed up. Nx2 approach. Similar approach to fans and power supplies. SNMP traps are issued if components fail.

The guys who pulled this together are Data Centre professionals and have the scars.

Thanks

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ted,</p>
<p>You are obviously an operations guy, practical and to the point. Simple answer is yes, every critical component is backed up. Nx2 approach. Similar approach to fans and power supplies. SNMP traps are issued if components fail.</p>
<p>The guys who pulled this together are Data Centre professionals and have the scars.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Finlay,

I know that you have run some of the biggest IT shops in the planet and it is incredible that a UK company has been able to innovate and deliver this game changing technology.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Finlay,</p>
<p>I know that you have run some of the biggest IT shops in the planet and it is incredible that a UK company has been able to innovate and deliver this game changing technology.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4786</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert

The Hot Aisle was able to scoop the news and hit the press early with this amazing new technology. The website is up, Iceotope are well funded and executing on a plan to change blade server packaging forever. The press launch has been amazing and the Internet is buzzing with these new ideas.

Believe Iceotope will be in touch to get help.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert</p>
<p>The Hot Aisle was able to scoop the news and hit the press early with this amazing new technology. The website is up, Iceotope are well funded and executing on a plan to change blade server packaging forever. The press launch has been amazing and the Internet is buzzing with these new ideas.</p>
<p>Believe Iceotope will be in touch to get help.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Keith,

You need to be really proud of what your team have achieved here. Smart, innovative technology that delivers a joined up solution that matters.

Well done.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Keith,</p>
<p>You need to be really proud of what your team have achieved here. Smart, innovative technology that delivers a joined up solution that matters.</p>
<p>Well done.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Herring</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Herring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like better execution of an existing concept, good for them. My concern would be redundancy, what if the primary water system or path fails? Does their design allow for 100% redundancy for high availability needs? 

Given the high density design and heat generated it would not take long for the motherboards, drives, etc to overheat if the primary cooling fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like better execution of an existing concept, good for them. My concern would be redundancy, what if the primary water system or path fails? Does their design allow for 100% redundancy for high availability needs? </p>
<p>Given the high density design and heat generated it would not take long for the motherboards, drives, etc to overheat if the primary cooling fails.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hendrik,

The IP is NOT in the immersion, it is in the smarts around integrating it into a data centre.  We have seen lots of kitchen experiments and game player hardware but this is the first and best technology that just gets the end to end solution. How do you make something that can be integrated into a data centre - I love it fantastic smart well though out technology.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hendrik,</p>
<p>The IP is NOT in the immersion, it is in the smarts around integrating it into a data centre.  We have seen lots of kitchen experiments and game player hardware but this is the first and best technology that just gets the end to end solution. How do you make something that can be integrated into a data centre &#8211; I love it fantastic smart well though out technology.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Interesting comment. High quality heat is a genuinely important feature and Iceotope can deliver water hot enough to shower in or run under the floor as a heater. When we get to liquid channels embedded in the silicon then we might actually be able to look at leveraging this to make a negative PUE. Watch this space.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Interesting comment. High quality heat is a genuinely important feature and Iceotope can deliver water hot enough to shower in or run under the floor as a heater. When we get to liquid channels embedded in the silicon then we might actually be able to look at leveraging this to make a negative PUE. Watch this space.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4780</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob,

I agree. Even my TV equipment makes too much noise because it generates heat and we need to dump it. Liquid cooling is silent, reliable and inevitable - watch the consumer space. We will see high end kit running liquid first and then it will become table stakes.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob,</p>
<p>I agree. Even my TV equipment makes too much noise because it generates heat and we need to dump it. Liquid cooling is silent, reliable and inevitable &#8211; watch the consumer space. We will see high end kit running liquid first and then it will become table stakes.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4779</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roland, 

Iceotope are a server packaging company, so yes the intellectual property is indeed in the plumbing - extremely smart and joined up plumbing for sure. Game changing plumbing.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roland, </p>
<p>Iceotope are a server packaging company, so yes the intellectual property is indeed in the plumbing &#8211; extremely smart and joined up plumbing for sure. Game changing plumbing.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I used to run BT&#039;s IT with 70,000 servers. In my entire career I have NEVER upgraded a server. I doesn&#039;t happen. Google does great with air cooled solutions, and some refrigeration when they need it. They also are working out how to do follow the moon to keep their data centres cool. Unfortunately in the real world that isn&#039;t practical. Liquid cooling is inevitable, wake up and smell the coffee pal

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I used to run BT&#8217;s IT with 70,000 servers. In my entire career I have NEVER upgraded a server. I doesn&#8217;t happen. Google does great with air cooled solutions, and some refrigeration when they need it. They also are working out how to do follow the moon to keep their data centres cool. Unfortunately in the real world that isn&#8217;t practical. Liquid cooling is inevitable, wake up and smell the coffee pal</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: John Pombrio</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Pombrio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. No component accessibility ever, eh? Just yesterday there was articles over the web about Cray upgrading their AMD CPUs to produce the fastest supercomputer on the planet. Then there is the huge servers that Google uses that have an enviable PUE of 1.19 and do not require UPS&#039;s. I would go that route any day of the week. This sounds like a workable solution but I doubt you will get real world results for infrastructure and maintenance costs that come within a factor of 2 of Google&#039;s low tech approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. No component accessibility ever, eh? Just yesterday there was articles over the web about Cray upgrading their AMD CPUs to produce the fastest supercomputer on the planet. Then there is the huge servers that Google uses that have an enviable PUE of 1.19 and do not require UPS&#8217;s. I would go that route any day of the week. This sounds like a workable solution but I doubt you will get real world results for infrastructure and maintenance costs that come within a factor of 2 of Google&#8217;s low tech approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The real intelectual property is the nature of the end-to-end cooling process that starts at the capsule and ends at the free cooler.&quot;

Don&#039;t you mean &quot;the plumbing&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The real intelectual property is the nature of the end-to-end cooling process that starts at the capsule and ends at the free cooler.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you mean &#8220;the plumbing&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should consider making equipment for home use too. Being able to replace noisy fans with quiet pumps would be a great benefit in home environments, and unfortunately the convection cooled PC is mostly just a dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should consider making equipment for home use too. Being able to replace noisy fans with quiet pumps would be a great benefit in home environments, and unfortunately the convection cooled PC is mostly just a dream.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Betts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Betts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if they can use the heat to make electricity they would really make a dent in the E-bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if they can use the heat to make electricity they would really make a dent in the E-bills.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi George

NEBS is apparently on the radar along with the many other compliance issues the firm needs to sort out.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi George</p>
<p>NEBS is apparently on the radar along with the many other compliance issues the firm needs to sort out.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Oldie

Component accessability is not an issue. No one EVER upgrades a server in an Enterprise Data Centre. No one ever attempts a fix in situ, not ever. In fact having these systems encapsulated protects them from thermal and mechanical shock making them more reliable.

Cooled front doors are a good thing but they tend to interfere with the CRAC units in the room and still depend on air to move the heat for the last few feet or inches.

Encapsulating equipment in dielectric fluid is absolutely not new technology. Lots of folks do it because it is smart and enables lots of heat to be removed efficiently. Iceotope have patented much of the associated technologies that make a liquid cooled blade system viable in a real data centre.

The real intelectual property is the nature of the end-to-end cooling process that starts at the capsule and ends at the free cooler.

Believe me this is game changing stuff

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Oldie</p>
<p>Component accessability is not an issue. No one EVER upgrades a server in an Enterprise Data Centre. No one ever attempts a fix in situ, not ever. In fact having these systems encapsulated protects them from thermal and mechanical shock making them more reliable.</p>
<p>Cooled front doors are a good thing but they tend to interfere with the CRAC units in the room and still depend on air to move the heat for the last few feet or inches.</p>
<p>Encapsulating equipment in dielectric fluid is absolutely not new technology. Lots of folks do it because it is smart and enables lots of heat to be removed efficiently. Iceotope have patented much of the associated technologies that make a liquid cooled blade system viable in a real data centre.</p>
<p>The real intelectual property is the nature of the end-to-end cooling process that starts at the capsule and ends at the free cooler.</p>
<p>Believe me this is game changing stuff</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Hendrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hendrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice approach though the idea of cooling components by having them completely sourrounded by liquid is quite old. I&#039;ve seen guys cooling their gaming pcs in an aquarium completely filled with some kind of oil more than 5 years ago. Only the drives were attached on the outside.

Hendrik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice approach though the idea of cooling components by having them completely sourrounded by liquid is quite old. I&#8217;ve seen guys cooling their gaming pcs in an aquarium completely filled with some kind of oil more than 5 years ago. Only the drives were attached on the outside.</p>
<p>Hendrik</p>
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		<title>By: Suburban Guerrilla &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Oh Good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suburban Guerrilla &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Oh Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oldie</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4767</link>
		<dc:creator>oldie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely not new and still impractical idea due to component accessibility which renders it not a not cost effective. 

For example a liquid cooled front door on the rack itself is a better way to move the cooling closer to the heat etc..... 

Congrats on getting VC funding for this but you ain&#039;t going to sell any and the idea is not patentable as people have been doing this with oil for decades - first match I came across: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/strip-fans,1203-11.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely not new and still impractical idea due to component accessibility which renders it not a not cost effective. </p>
<p>For example a liquid cooled front door on the rack itself is a better way to move the cooling closer to the heat etc&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Congrats on getting VC funding for this but you ain&#8217;t going to sell any and the idea is not patentable as people have been doing this with oil for decades &#8211; first match I came across: <a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/strip-fans,1203-11.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/strip-fans,1203-11.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any word on NEBS compliance?</description>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4757</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert
Readers at The Hot Aisle get the news first. I did say that Iceotope would be launching this week and if you have a look the website is up. Iceotope have been operating in stealth mode, developing the technology, delivering the beta systems and filing the patents.

The firm is well funded and will now progress onto the next stage - launch and customer acquisition. Iceotope have had a huge response from the market and it is clear that the time is right for liquid cooling. (We have been saying that here on the hot aisle for a long while - don&#039;t forget we introduced data centre curtains).

Iceotope tell me that they are actively looking for customers now.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert<br />
Readers at The Hot Aisle get the news first. I did say that Iceotope would be launching this week and if you have a look the website is up. Iceotope have been operating in stealth mode, developing the technology, delivering the beta systems and filing the patents.</p>
<p>The firm is well funded and will now progress onto the next stage &#8211; launch and customer acquisition. Iceotope have had a huge response from the market and it is clear that the time is right for liquid cooling. (We have been saying that here on the hot aisle for a long while &#8211; don&#8217;t forget we introduced data centre curtains).</p>
<p>Iceotope tell me that they are actively looking for customers now.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4755</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron,

Thanks for your comment. I am told that the products are priced competitively and that the costs of encapsulation are sensible and comparible to a server chassis. The key thing is these machines do not need refrigeration or CRAC units. Overall the capital costs will be staggeringly lower.

Equally the operational costs will be significantly lower even in a highly efficient data centre we will see electricity costs dropping 50 or 60%. In sites that have no cooling capacity left these will be a Godsend.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. I am told that the products are priced competitively and that the costs of encapsulation are sensible and comparible to a server chassis. The key thing is these machines do not need refrigeration or CRAC units. Overall the capital costs will be staggeringly lower.</p>
<p>Equally the operational costs will be significantly lower even in a highly efficient data centre we will see electricity costs dropping 50 or 60%. In sites that have no cooling capacity left these will be a Godsend.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Ron van de Water</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4750</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron van de Water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, this sounds like a very good solution. Any idea of the price point of these type of servers and the scalability of this type of solution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, this sounds like a very good solution. Any idea of the price point of these type of servers and the scalability of this type of solution?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hokin</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4722</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hokin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very impressive and elegant solution as you describe it, Steve. As you say, potentially game changing. Investigating further, it appears that this is a very early stage company (website under development). too often we see solid UK engineering undermined by too little support from the public and private sector. How will they scale and do they have the resources to meet the market? 

As the UK&#039;s not-for-profit cleantech support resource, we&#039;d be happy to offer assistance if required. Even to the Sheffield area!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very impressive and elegant solution as you describe it, Steve. As you say, potentially game changing. Investigating further, it appears that this is a very early stage company (website under development). too often we see solid UK engineering undermined by too little support from the public and private sector. How will they scale and do they have the resources to meet the market? </p>
<p>As the UK&#8217;s not-for-profit cleantech support resource, we&#8217;d be happy to offer assistance if required. Even to the Sheffield area!</p>
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		<title>By: Announcing the next generation cooling solution &#124; Blade Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.thehotaisle.com/2009/11/13/one-day-all-servers-will-be-this-good/comment-page-1/#comment-4716</link>
		<dc:creator>Announcing the next generation cooling solution &#124; Blade Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Announcing the next generation cooling solution  Martin &#160; &#124; &#160; Saturday 14th November 2009&#160; &#124; &#160;0 comments   Hello there! If you are new here, you might want to subscribe to the RSS feed for updates on this topic.Powered by WP Greet BoxThe Hot Aisle [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Keith Deakin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Deakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Thanks for the great promo - we&#039;re very excited and can&#039;t wait to hear and build on the comments from both The Hot Aisle and SC 09.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Thanks for the great promo &#8211; we&#8217;re very excited and can&#8217;t wait to hear and build on the comments from both The Hot Aisle and SC 09.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday data center tidbits. &#171; The Server Room</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday data center tidbits. &#171; The Server Room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] } I was just reading about new servers that have the motherboard immersed in liquid coolant. I&#8217;m waiting for a few things to show up, such as an astronomical price tag for entirely [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin,

Iceotope have filed and had granted a number of patents both in the UK and US. The end-to-end design is brilliant and innovative. It makes the Data Centre obsolete - no need for all of the raised floors, fans, refrigeration and other cooling plant. Energy efficiency is stunning. It is totally silent - no fans screaming at high airflow rates.

The design fits right between IBM&#039;s innovative cold plate technology and the new liquid channel designs for high power chips. Both of these approaches are expensive to implement and manufacture. The Iceotope solution is simple and clean. Cheap to manufacture and totally reliable.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,</p>
<p>Iceotope have filed and had granted a number of patents both in the UK and US. The end-to-end design is brilliant and innovative. It makes the Data Centre obsolete &#8211; no need for all of the raised floors, fans, refrigeration and other cooling plant. Energy efficiency is stunning. It is totally silent &#8211; no fans screaming at high airflow rates.</p>
<p>The design fits right between IBM&#8217;s innovative cold plate technology and the new liquid channel designs for high power chips. Both of these approaches are expensive to implement and manufacture. The Iceotope solution is simple and clean. Cheap to manufacture and totally reliable.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! This is a genius yet simple idea. I thought this had been done long ago but now I see the difference - the components are all immersed in the liquid rather than using liquid to cool plates. Do you know if they have patents on their design?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! This is a genius yet simple idea. I thought this had been done long ago but now I see the difference &#8211; the components are all immersed in the liquid rather than using liquid to cool plates. Do you know if they have patents on their design?</p>
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		<title>By: Finlay J MacLeod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finlay J MacLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely brilliant!</description>
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		<title>By: Christofer Hoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christofer Hoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @stephenodonnell: Amazing high density liquid cooled Ent. blade servers that don&#039;t need a data centre http://ow.ly/C002 &lt; Like Crays?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @stephenodonnell: Amazing high density liquid cooled Ent. blade servers that don&#39;t need a data centre <a href="http://ow.ly/C002" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/C002</a> &lt; Like Crays?</span></span></span></p>
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